My Dad’s Suicide: 10 Years Later
I’m reposting an edited version of this because I noticed I missed World Suicide Prevention Day yesterday. I was dealing with my own depression and finding someone to talk to. I’ve dealt with depression and anxiety a lot over the years and there have been times that I’ve had suicidal thoughts and ideations. It gets overwhelming. It’s physically, emotionally, and mentally draining and is very hard to convince yourself to reach out when you’re at that point.
If you are feeling depressed and want someone to talk to, reach out to someone close to you and be honest, be open. If you don’t have anyone to reach out to, then call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255. If talking isn’t your thing, they have an online chat. If that doesn’t work you can reach me on twitter @coffeesippers. DM me and I will send you my # and we can talk, I can listen, whatever you need. Remember, once you’re gone, there’s no coming back.
My dad committed suicide 10 yrs ago this past July and the sadness never really goes away. Yeah, I’ve “dealt with it”, and those emotions are settled, mostly, not really, who knows? Ten years on and at times it sure as shit still feels like it just happened yesterday. This isn’t really about typical suicide prevention, because I don’t know how to stop it. I’m not a professional therapist and I feel like telling someone to “talk about it” is akin to telling an alcoholic to “just stop drinking…” It’s just not that easy. Not when you’re at that place in your head.
This is how I felt after I found out that my dad committed suicide.
Disclaimer, there’s no PF spin or $ talk today, so feel free to delete and move on if you’re not interested, my feelings won’t be hurt a bit.
The Call
I was standing in my apartment when the phone rang. I was a bit out of it, because I’d put in a long night working on writing my master’s thesis and was just feeling spent. It was my sister’s boyfriend and I thought, “Why the hell is he calling me?” I picked it up figuring my sister had lost/broken/sold her phone and was using his to get in touch with me. I picked it up and asked, “Hey what’s up?” He replied, “Pat did it…” I said, “What?” He said, “He did it, he shot himself.” (He was referring to my dad)
I felt like a wooden 4×4 post just slammed into my chest, knocked a huge hole in it, took my breath away, and left me numb at the same time.
I just hung up. I didn’t have anything to say.
My first thought was that it wasn’t true, followed by, “no, it’s got to be true, I just don’t want to believe it.” I hadn’t ever expected my dad to actually kill himself. He always had a flair for the dramatic, and dealt with bipolar issues and alcoholism (fun times all around) so we knew it was possible, but he didn’t seem suicidal and I’d just talked with him a few nights previous and he sounded like his usual excited about life self. Maybe it was just because he was talking to me.
Best Friend No More
We, dad and I, spent a lot of time on the phone together, just talking about everything, nothing, and then some. We’d almost compete with each other as if we wouldn’t get a chance to talk over the other one and catch them up on what we had been up to before the other one would cut us off. It was almost comical how we’d cut each other off at times, just excited to talk about our day, or a fish I’d caught or a new gun he’d found, or a cool snowstorm I got caught in, or his latest find at the thrift store. Everything and nothing…
In an instant, that was gone. No one left to go back “home” to visit anymore. “Home” was a concept long gone by then, but he was the only reason I’d get back to my home town a few times a year. It was nice catching up with my siblings as well, but he was pretty much the glue that held the last shreds of our family together. (Since he passed, I’ve seen my brother 3x and my sister twice over 10 years) — update, this hasn’t changed in 2 years…
There I was, just standing in my apartment, looking at the books he’d given me, and all the other trinkets he’d given me. I realized I’d just been standing there reliving all the memories I had of him like thumbing thru my brain’s rolodex tabbed “Dad memories”. Suddenly I was frightened that they weren’t enough, that I hadn’t remembered enough details, and what about things he couldn’t remind me about anymore? I don’t have him to reminisce with, tell stories with, and be reminded of stories past that I’ve forgotten, all that was gone. Just. Like. That.
The Hurt Begins
Suddenly everything was loud again, and I hurt. A deep hurt, a hurt I hadn’t felt since losing a close friend in 6th grade and just like then, I felt helpless and alone, but I didn’t have dad to turn to this time. I started calling people, any people, anyone that could get me out of that apartment. I didn’t know where I wanted to be, but I knew I didn’t want to be alone. I wasn’t able to call Mrs. SSC yet, it was too fresh, too embarrassing, I couldn’t even bring myself to say it yet. It was only 10 minutes old, but it felt like I’d just lived and died 2 lifetimes. I felt old…
I never got anyone on the phone. I laughed to myself thinking I should just leave a message in a fake cheery voice, “Hey, my dad just killed himself and I was hoping we could hang out. Call me!” Haha, no such luck. I just sat alone. And cried. A lot. Hell, I didn’t even feel like drinking. I didn’t know what I felt like, except sad and broken.
I eventually got composed enough to call Mrs. SSC and tell her before breaking down again, and I finally answered one of my family’s calls, now that they deemed it worthy to talk to me after they’d let someone else break the news to me. Why the hell did I have to hear that from a stranger?! Where is common courtesy for God’s sake?! You can see why I don’t visit more often or at all anymore.
Plans were made, a funeral was arranged and the fighting and bickering over dad’s “estate” was well under way, and he’d only been gone a whole day and a half…
Funeral Realities
I flew home. Mostly numb, wholly sober, not wanting to deal with the reality of it, or my immediate family, but stiff upper lip and all that. The funeral reception was nice, I was shocked that immediately there was a huge divide between his first kid, my older sister, and my side of the family. Literally, we stood at 2 different sides of the casket, and received 2 whole different sets of friends and extended family. And just like that. That family was broken too.
I was even more shocked by how much my brother and sister drank at the funeral, which just seemed so disrespectful especially because he’d struggled with alcohol so much, and how my mom all of a sudden seemed to give a shit about dad, and was up at his casket just beside herself over “the tragedy”. Like some kind of emotional hitch-hiker just soaking up all of the attention for someone she’d just as soon spit on than say hello to. I couldn’t wait to fly back to my home, my life, away from all this noise and soulless squabbling over stuff. Stuff. Just stuff.
It felt great getting dropped off at the airport in Nashville finally alone again. I sat at a bar and ordered a beer, and relieved by the removed weight of being around my “family” and realizing, this was probably my last trip back to my home town, I started crying again. Like for real, bawling type crying like a dam broke and I could finally have the emotional release I’d been holding in around my family.
A nice Mexican lady that was bussing tables noticed me crying and after looking at me and looking at me she finally asked if I was okay because “she knew in this country men aren’t supposed to cry like that.” (God bless her) I could only shake my head no, and she gave me a long hug and it was one of the best feelings I’d had since the whole thing started 5 days earlier.
Life Goes On
It was hell getting back on track with life. Nobody gives a shit. Hell, most people didn’t even know it was suicide. I said it was a heart attack because that’s way more “acceptable” and way less embarrassing and shameful for me. Life goes on, everything moves on. Forward, always forward, no time for pause. I finished writing my thesis and defended it in the following 2 months. Moved to LA, started a new job, got married to Mrs. SSC, and I couldn’t share any of it with my dad. No crazy LA people stories to tell him, my new fishing/kayaking adventures, how the new job, house, marriage, life in general was going. Nothing. Just gone.
It took a lot of therapy to be able to accept that my dad killed himself. I am okay with it, I can even talk about it, but it doesn’t hurt any less. I don’t have the courage to go to a suicide survivors meeting yet, I may never. It’s been 10 years and I still don’t have the courage to go. But all these feelings got brought back to the surface this weekend with the whole Suicide Prevention Day agenda. Quietly at first, but slowly building to an un-ignorable crescendo, the earworm that is the worst part of my life started playing and all of this got relived. and relived. and relived.
SO Much to Miss
It makes me sad, and mad, but mostly I just miss him. I’m not mad at him anymore, I’m sometimes still mad at myself that I might not have been more supportive or more in touch, but those are things that can’t be changed so I just let them go, like leaves in a stream. It just sucks. I can’t share anything about the kids with him, I can’t tell him how I now understand his temperament with me, now that I’m also raising a clone of myself. (side-note – omg it’s so frustrating at times trying to deal with a 7 yr old version of myself…) I can’t share anything about my daughter with him.
I just miss getting to talk to him. I miss getting to hear his voice, his laugh, his tone change when he’s excited about something, the way we’d cut each other off wanting to out talk the other one. Just everything. Everything and nothing.
I know there is nothing I could change to keep him from killing himself. I don’t know how you prevent it, I don’t know why he did it. These questions and more are what suicide survivors deal with everyday. You’re just left with so many questions, hurt feelings, raw emotions, and loneliness. All full well knowing it had absolutely nothing to do with you, except you’re just caught in the shit show of the aftermath.
All I can say is that it’s made me appreciate the time I have with people that are currently here. I try to smile more, I try to keep things relative, and I try to remember dad’s life with all the fun times, conversations, and memories we have and not his final act. It’s a hard shadow to get out from behind because it touches everything in my life in some way or another and that’s okay. It gets easier, it gets a lot easier, but 10 yrs later it hasn’t started hurting any less.
That’s what never ends, and that’s what suicide feels like for those left behind.
Reach Out, People Want to Help
If you are feeling depressed and want someone to talk to, reach out to someone close to you and be honest, be open. If you don’t have anyone to reach out to, then call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255. If talking isn’t your thing, they even have an online chat. If that doesn’t work you can reach me on twitter @coffeesippers. DM me and I will send you my # and we can talk, I can listen, whatever you need. Once you’re gone, there’s no coming back.
Stacy Hart
September 11, 2018Thank you for wrtiting and reposting this deeply moving post about your experience with your fathers suicide.
Mr SSC
September 12, 2018You’re welcome.
Angela @ Tread Lightly Retire Early
September 11, 2018Thank you for sharing this with us. It’s amazing how the stigma of suicide is so strong that it feels shameful to tell people that someone else connected to you did it. Hopefully more stories shared like yours will start to shift the narrative.
I do feel you on the family thing – if it wasn’t for my parents, I likely wouldn’t have reason to talk to a couple of my siblings ever again.
Mr SSC
September 12, 2018Yeah, when it happened I was in grad school and told my advisor about the suicide and also told her I was telling everyone else it was a heartattack because, too much hassle, issues, etc… Besides the shame of “my dad killed himself” there’s also the awkward, “uuuhhh… wtf do I say now” face and response or non-response from people. It’s just easier saying it was something people’s brains can process. Today I say he died of lead poisoning, and maybe it’s macabre humor, but it makes me laugh anyway. Plus it defuses any tension around the subject when they “get it” and are like, oh, that’s interesting?? Ooooohhh….
I don’t think this will shift the narrative much but maybe it’s adding another crack in the dam that collectively might break it loose and make it more acceptable to discuss openly in the future.
Jami Marie Lynn
September 11, 2018Thank you for sharing this – I’m so deeply sorry for your losses – the loss of your Dad, and the loss of the rest of your family. I think it was brave and generous of you to take the time to write out your love and your pain and your confusion, and to entrust it to strangers. I don’t know if you believe in an afterlife, but I do, and I think your Dad would be glad you made this effort to try and help others avoid the struggle he faced.
Thank you again, and I’ll say a prayer for your Dad, and for everyone who loved and misses him.
Jami
Mr SSC
September 12, 2018Thaks for the support and the kind words.
Bob
September 11, 2018Thank you very, very much for sharing. My coworker of 12 years committed suicide last week…leaving me and my entire office stunned and devastated. I’m actually headed to the funeral in a couple of hours. It’s been an extremely hard week and reading your article really gave me some needed perspective. Thank you for being brave enough to share your experience. I’m so very sorry for the loss of your dad. All the best.
Mr SSC
September 12, 2018Bob, I’m sorry to hear about your co-workers suicide. It’s a devastating act for everyone that their lives touched. I’m glad the article helped you and thanks for the support.
I wish you all the best moving forward dealing with your co-workers loss. It does get easier, but mostly it just gets less constant. Less constant bad feelings, and confusion. I’ve gotten to the point that I don’t feel regret or blame or anything that typically goes along with survivors of suicide so that’s a positive. But the feelings of missing him and more typical grieving feelings are still there and still very raw after 10 years. Maybe it’s the manner in which they leave our lives makes it harder to accept or process instead of a health issue or accident or something “explainable”.
I hope next week is better than this one for you.
Mrs. Picky Pincher
September 11, 2018I’m so sorry to hear about this. My mom had similar issues and passed away 7 years ago. It never does get easier, and I don’t really go back to visit, either. I can’t blame you. My mom had a bad mental illness that made it hard to be around her, but some days it does hit me that I miss her. Even 7 years later, I wake up from a nap and think, “Oh damn! I haven’t called mom in a while!” I’ll even pick up the phone and start dialing when I remember.
What’s important is to remember the good times, even if your loved one wasn’t always 100% lovable. I’m here for you.
Mr SSC
September 12, 2018Man, I’m sorry to hear about your mom. That is difficult when your parent makes it hard to be around even when you know that it’s not their fault and they can’t really help it. I keep the good times close, don’t dwell on how it ended and try to have empathy when I remember the bad times.
It is still startling sometimes remembering that he’s gone or forgetting rather and then getting jarred back to reality when you do remember. It hasn’t gotten easier per se, but it has gotten less constant. The missing is still the same, and sadness is still there, but it’s not there 24/7 anymore.
Thanks for being there. 🙂
Fervent Finance
September 11, 2018Thank you for sharing this Mr. SSC.
Mr SSC
September 12, 2018You’re welcome.
ZJ Thorne
September 11, 2018Oh friend, I’m so sorry. This must be so hard to write, and re-post. Thank you for sharing this with the world.
Mr SSC
September 12, 2018Thanks for the support. It was/is hard writing, even harder was reading it and making minor edits. I didn’t realize how much just reading it and reliving that was going to affect me. Add in reading peoples comments on Twiter and man, emotional overload. It was a good day to be remote working with all the emotions going on yesterday. 🙂
Ms. Fiology
September 12, 2018Oh my goodness. I am reading this and crying. I am so, so, so sorry. I don’t really know what to say other than my heart goes out to you. Thank you for sharing. Sometimes that is the best place to find the healing – talking about it. I encourage you to check out a survivors of suicide meeting. It can be incredibly easy to open up to strangers and there is great comfort in others knowing exactly how you are feeling.
Peace, brother.
Mr SSC
September 14, 2018Thanks! I’m not sure I’m strong enough for a survivors meeting yet. Even now just thinking about it brings an upwelling of emotions and it’s like, “whoa, whoa, whoa… where did all that come from?!” So maybe I need to go more than I think, lol.
Thanks for the comments and support. 🙂
Marla
September 13, 2018Mr. SSC, we have never met, but I have enjoyed your blog and heard you guys on ChooseFI. Reading about this tragedy in your life makes your FI journey all the more amazing. I am so sorry for your loss and all the hurt you have endured. I lost my Mom to cancer 14 years ago and I think your description of it “not getting easier, but less constant” is very apt. I also think you have made the transition from focusing on the tragic circumstances of his death to the missing him and thinking of the happy memories. I have made that transition too and I think that is a very positive step. You are very brave to share your story. I am certain you are helping others (and hopefully yourself) by doing so. I look forward to meeting you one day. In the meantime, I am sending you a big virtual hug!!
Mr SSC
September 14, 2018Thanks for the kind words and support! I’m sorry about your mom, dealing with a parent’s loss is tough. It took some time to transition to quit focusing on the negative aspects but it is definitely worth it. Thanks for the comment, it means a lot. 🙂
Mr. Groovy
September 29, 2018Thank you for posting this again. It will surely help people going through a similar tragedy. God willing, it will even help desperate people consider alternatives to suicide. Such a difficult problem. I look at people like Robin Williams and Anthony Bourdain and can’t imagine what was so unappealing about their lives. And, yet, for these two super talented people, the pain of living was just too much. I obviously have no answers. Medication surely has a role. And so too does professional counseling. But maybe the most important thing of all is just having someone to talk to. You’re a very cool dude, Mr. SSC. Thanks again for sharing such a painful chapter in your life.
Mr SSC
October 1, 2018Thanks for the comment Mr. Groovy. 🙂 I think that’s a lot of it is that the pain of living is too much to deal with internally, regardless of what face you put on externally. Even with all the success, travels, money that they had, they still had to wake up and be them everyday. The same with my dad and anyone else struggling with mental health issues.
I’m working on professional counseling, I have a group therapy support group I’m going to weekly, and for the first time and seeing a bonafide shrink this week. Much like my dad and the people you mentioned above, I’m tired of fighting with my brain and don’t want it to get to the point it did with them.
Hopefully this helps someone decide to make those same choices and seek help rather than struggle with it for decades like I and so many others have.
The Beacon
September 30, 2018What a sad story! I do not have any one close to me, who committed suicide. Naturally I was pretty disconnected until this post. This post tells me to go hug my dad and mom who live thousands of miles away from me. This post also tells me how important FIRE is so that we can have absolute control of our limited time on this planet. Thank you for writing this.
Keep posting… I will be a frequent visitor.
Mr SSC
October 1, 2018Thanks for the comment. I’m glad it helped portray the feelings or what someone who experiences this could be going through. Also, to not take for granted that tomorrow is given to us, whether it’s for your parents or other loved ones.
Like Mr. Groovy’s comment above, hitting FIRE can help ease any money anxiety and work stress, but even very very FAT FIRE folks commit suicide. Robin Williams, Anthony Bourdain, Kate Spade, and many many more. No matter how much money or freedom you have, you still have to wake up being you in the morning and if you’re not happy with you now, having more free time and money won’t change that.
Thanks again for visiting and the comment and I hope you keep reading!
Mike C.
August 26, 2019I couldn’t have said it better myself “It gets easier, it gets a lot easier, but 10 yrs later it hasn’t started hurting any less.” Unfortunately, for me it’s now 32 years later and it still hurts when think about my dad (daily). Reading your post brought tears to my eyes as it I still sometimes feel those raw emotions and that pain. However, in part, it’s knowing that pain that keeps me focused on my FI journey and being there for my children, hugging them every single day, trying to make each tomorrow better than today and better aligning with our values. Thanks for posting this and all your content!
Mr SSC
September 2, 2019Glad that was able to help you. There are still a lot of raw emotions there and even some I haven’t dealt with even though I thought I had. Crazy how they can come up so quickly and out of the blue and remind you that it doesn’t really ever go away.
mojo risin
April 11, 2024Man – Thanks for your post on this situation (even though mine is wholly different). My dad did this EXACT same deed 10 years to the day today (4.11). Dude was a phone guy and 411 always gets to me of sorts b/c back in the day 411 was “directory for information”.
Sounds like the relationship you had with your dad was in a way, WAY better than mine. I mean, we did stuff together etc, but I recall going to Philmont (Boy Scouts) by myself – with my Crew of course; but Dad wasn’t into it for whatever reason.
My brother has always been my sounding board, not so much my father. It’s awesome I can read that ideology in someone else’s blog post.
Dunno why im rambling about that; but that is one of the first things i noticed on the clock after I got the news from my mom…Not really “thinking” about what day it was.
True to that – the “hurt” and the “what ifs” and definitely the “why” still exists. And they will ALWAYS exist. it will just get a lil more stagnant / numb over time. Thank you, Sir for your blog on a subject that is STILL taboo in the USA (even though a LOT has come to light in 10 years, I can say).
Appreciate ya.
Mr SSC
April 11, 2024I’m sorry you had to also deal with that experience.
I’m glad my writing about it helped in some way.
It just sucks, all around. Mines been gone since 2008, so, it’s been a minute, but it feels like lifetimes and like I just got the call a few minutes ago.
It’s gotten better over time, for sure. It’s not nearly as much of a rollercoaster of emotions as it was nearer to his death.
But damn…
I get caught off guard here and there but yeah, it’s still just well, like I described.
I hope you work thru it well with your situation but it can get better and in my case, it has gotten better, but it’s been a lot of work.
Good luck to you and thanks for stopping by.